S3 Ep 061 BD Erickson II Wants You To Know the Benefits of Clean Electricity

In this episode, BD Erickson II discusses American manufacturing surprises, BD's foray into clean energy, the difference between clean electricity and green energy, the concept of dirty electricity and its manifestations, smart placement of EMF devices, wiring errors causing hot spots, and the crucial role of experts in addressing these challenges.
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Today we welcome B.D. Erickson on the show. He is a seasoned leader in the high-tech business world, with business and science degrees to his name, as well as certifications from Anthony Robbins Mastery University and Leadership Academy.

With over two decades of experience in high-pressure leadership roles, he has been recognized for his exceptional ability to build winning teams, create outstanding corporate cultures, and drive company-wide growth. He currently runs the country’s leading clean power manufacturing facility and Montana’s most proficient solar company. Today, we will explore how technology can be used to promote health and well-being, and learn from experts in the field.

In this episode, you will hear: 

  • The amazing things being manufactured here in the US that you wouldn’t expect. 
  • Why BD got into clean energy? 
  • The difference between clean electricity and green energy. 
  • What dirty electricity actually is and how it manifests.   
  • Using your perception to address the culprits first and use as little filtering as possible. 
  • Placing your EMF devices in the same area to minimize the impact. 
  • How wiring errors can create hot spots. 
  • The role of an expert in understanding and finding dirty electricity. 

B.D. Erickson II is a proven leader and team builder, successfully navigating an ever-changing high-tech business climate. Having business and science degrees, combined with Anthony Robbins Mastery University and Leadership Academy, B.D. is well equipped to lead his team in the highly technical sector of clean, renewable energy.

Spanning two decades in high-pressure leadership roles, B.D. has been recognized multiple times for building winning teams, creating an outstanding corporate culture, and having a massive impact on company-wide growth. Currently running the country’s leading clean power manufacturing facility and Montana’s most proficient solar company. B.D. possess a proven track record of sustaining high-level team buy-in, not simply surviving in the high-pressure environment of advanced American technology manufacturing but thriving.

Connect with B.D. Erickson II:

Website: www.saticshield.com – Promo Code: SYB (use for a discount at checkout)

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saticshield

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064324531009

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/b-d-erickson-ii-a5362621/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/satic-usa/

YouTube: www.youtube.com/saticusa

Instagram: https://instagram.com/saticshield 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saticsolar/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/satic_usa/ 

Connect with R Blank and Stephanie Warner: For more Healthier Tech Podcast episodes and to download our Healthier Tech Quick Start Guide, visit https://www.healthiertech.co and follow https://instagram.com/healthiertech

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BD Erickson II 0:00
But let’s just be realistic, we live in a technological world. So rather than stick your head under the pillow, or in the sand rather than deny these things to be true, face it head on, we make really good LEDs that create no dirty electricity or EMF, we get rid of the dimmers, we put a line filter on the panel, and we put physical shielding, we call it field shield, near the breaker panel and near the smart metre, and we make sure that none of the smart metres RF radiation can penetrate our family’s home. And then our guarantee is not only a you have solar, your living environment is safer. Your energy is cleaner and renewable more so when we leave than when we came. That’s our written and personal guarantee.

Announcer 0:41
Welcome to the healthier tech podcast, the show about building a healthier relationship with modern technology. Now here are your hosts R blank and Stephanie Warner.

R Blank 0:54
So Kathy, you and I have talked about dirty electricity a lot in the three plus years that we’ve known each other, but I don’t think we’ve ever talked about it on this show. Certainly not in this depth. I really like the way that BD defines dirty electricity. I like the way that he talks about I like the way that he talks about the remediation. What did you think?

Cathy Cooke 1:14
I agree, I was really happy to hear his explanation because I’m usually trying to explain to somebody that you have these harmonics in this altered sine wave and they look at me like what and maybe pretend to understand, but they really don’t. So his explanation was I found to be really helpful. I think your audience is really going to like that. Excellent. So let’s

R Blank 1:33
get into it. Today, we welcome Biddy Erickson to the show. He is a seasoned leader in the high tech business world with business and science degrees to his name as well as certifications from Anthony Robbins Master University and Leadership Academy. With over two decades of experience in high pressure leadership roles he has been recognised for his exceptional ability to build winning teams create outstanding corporate cultures, and drive company wide growth. He runs the country’s leading clean power manufacturing facility, and Montana’s most proficient solar company. Throughout his career, he has demonstrated a remarkable ability to sustain high level team buy in and thrive in the fast paced and ever changing world of advanced American technology manufacturing. We will explore how technology can be used to promote health and well being and learn from experts in the field. Welcome to the healthier tech podcast. Biddy,

BD Erickson II 2:27
thank you, thank you for having me.

R Blank 2:29
You know, I’ve heard of Sadek before, in part from from Kathy and her colleagues, I did not realise that that Sadek and I don’t know if it’s the same company, or just another company that you do, but was affiliated with actual power suppliers.

Unknown Speaker 2:46
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

R Blank 2:48
So it’s all the same, the same entity, or is it just you have you have a whole bunch of things going on? Yeah, so

BD Erickson II 2:55
we have we have three licenced DBAs, static Inc, static USA Sadek, American manufacturing and engineering. But we also have static solar, which is now its own private business, and it’s a wholly owned subsidiary of Sadek, USA, we’ve just been growing. And that, that looks like several things engineering and manufacturing the products, selling the products, and then working with and installing solar.

R Blank 3:19
So what inspired you to pursue a career in clean, renewable energy,

BD Erickson II 3:25
it’s interesting how life you know, takes you where your journey where your path leads, as you follow your feet. Growing up in western Montana, my family actually manufactured solar panels. And so growing up not only did my family, home have solar, but they were panels made by my family’s facility, they did not make PV then they did not make electricity, they just made warm air, but they’re exceedingly efficient. Later on in life, I ended up in you know, tech, green, renewable manufacturing in Hawaii in the Middle East. But upon moving to Montana, I became very aware of EMF and electromagnetic fields and how this dirty electricity, which I knew was damaging to electronics, I became aware of how that was damaging to the biological and so personal interest and personal pursuit are really what has led me down this path more than college or desire to be in a field or make money.

R Blank 4:20
So given the highly technical nature of of the your work and the the clean energy sector in general, what are some of the biggest challenges you face in, in building your business and leading your team?

BD Erickson II 4:35
Well, you know, one of the things that is kind of a misnomer is that you know, electronics aren’t made in the USA and that a lot of our manufacturers leaving and while some of that is true, I’m always amazed. I sit on the district Export Council, Montana’s Manufacturing Association and I see all the time these little nondescript or industrial buildings, and when we enter them to maybe work on helping them with importing or exporting goods Something, these amazing things that are being made around us in our community that I had no idea that business was there and existed or I’ve used that product before, and had no idea that it was made in my community. I was not an expert are in, in manufacturing electronics, I simply found a market gap. And then you know, as you dive into business, you know, what are the challenges? My goodness, you don’t know what you don’t know. And so you think in your mind’s eye, here’s a product that really has a niche in the market, if we can make it simple, we’ll buy it. But the monumental leap from actually designing and engineering and product, getting tooled up finding all the components sources to actually make it getting safety testing like universe, underwriters, laboratory UL and things like that. And then getting proof that it works army, not when you launch a product, especially in this space, people say things like maybe that’s not something you shouldn’t really worry about EMF, or the product is too good to be true, etc. So even if I can see it working, or someone else can see it working, you really need to send to a lab, you need to hire, maybe someone like you know, a building biologists etc. To get separate totally third party conduct their test. So now once you’re tooled up, and you actually make something that works, and you’ve got proof that it works. Now you got to tell the world that you’re there. And Nike can tell everyone just do it, because they’re a billion dollar company. Well, what if you’re not what if you’re small? And what if you spent all your money engineering and manufacturing? Each of those is a leaf that was a challenge unto itself.

Cathy Cooke 6:33
So btw, I’m curious, from a building biology standpoint, you know, you’re talking about your focus on clean energy, but you mentioned dirty electricity. So what what’s the deal with both of these together? Yeah, so

BD Erickson II 6:45
that’s a great question. And there’s a big disconnect there. And one of the videos that we make, one of the things that we teach is just because it’s green, doesn’t mean it’s clean. Energy can be green, and that it’s renewable. It’s not clean. by our standards. It has magnetic fields. It has inductance, it has interference. Like, I don’t want to bash solar, I grew up in solar, I have solar on my house. I’m the biggest, biggest solar installer in western Montana. But we for our part, would never instal solar without line filters ever. Because we know that we’re creating a huge amount of electromagnetic fields interference and what we consider to be dirty electricity. And it’s been proven to us for our persons in our business. Beyond any contestation, that dirty electricity and EMF are damaging to the biological world. That’s BS. That’s trees. And that’s us. So the disconnect there, I think, is that the communication? What are you saying exactly by clean? So is it clean in a renewable standpoint? Or is it clean in an EMF biological healthy standpoint? Because they’re very different.

R Blank 7:52
So what is Oh, sorry. Okay.

Cathy Cooke 7:55
I just want to follow up on that real quick. So. So you’re installing filtration for the solar panels? And I’m curious, you know, to get I mean, I don’t want to get too nerdy here for our audience. But what kind of results you’re seeing I’m I want to talk about specific frequencies, but what kind of results you’re getting from your solar with the filtration, like a before and after? If you have that? Yeah, that’s

BD Erickson II 8:21
that’s a great question. So we use the standard metres that everybody does, we walk in with our trifield, we walk in with our greenwave metre with our Stetzer metre, you know, static makes its own EMI metre. And we want really good readings before so that we get a baseline on what the utility is delivering and what the family’s making, because we know, as much as we want to complain about D, most of us are making it right, we’ve got all these DC power devices, we’ve got all these things, you got a microwave oven, maybe CFL or LED lighting dimmer switches, hey, we’re making it so one of the projects really is to inform the family on the causes of D, where it comes from, and how you can mitigate it at no cost. Because the best way to do it really think is either turn things off, or use them thoughtfully. That’s the first process. Then of course, we want to we want to get them renewable. We’d like to help them go solar, and maybe limit their independence on the utility company and lower their bills. For a lot of family. It’s a totally financial decision. But we know as an engineering firm and as a solar company that the minute we add solar inverters micro or string inverter, that we’re going to add massive amounts of EMF to this family’s home. So now we’ve got to do a couple of things. One way that we mitigate that is line filters at the panel, where we land, the inverter and oftentimes actually using physical shielding because maybe the two biggest culprits in the D world are smart metres, solar inverters and then efficient lighting. Well, these are almost a package deal. Anytime that you go solar if you want to net metre Wango Tango you’ve got a smart metre now. So maybe the two biggest culprits the solar inverter and the smart metre I just hung both of those on the family’s home. Now when you’re trying to cut watts, the next thing that you often do is use energy efficient lighting. I mean, you hit the 123 of dirty electricity right on the head. So what do you do? Do not go sorry, we all move to Oregon and compost our hair. That would be awesome. I thought, let’s just be realistic, we live in a technological world. So rather than stick your head under the pillow, or in the stand, rather than deny these things to be true, face it head on, we make really good LEDs that create no dirty electricity or EMF, we get rid of the dimmers. We put a line filter on the panel, and we put physical shielding, we call it field shield on your the breaker panel and you’re the smart metre and we make sure that none of the smart metres RF or radiation can penetrate our family’s home. And then our guarantee is not only a you have solar, your living environment is safer. Your energy is cleaner and renewable more so when we leave than when we came. That’s our written and personal guarantee. And as humans, we honour it and back it up because many of us are in this field because we have somebody that’s EHS, we have somebody in our life. That’s electro hypersensitive syndrome. That’s how I landed in this. And so it’s exceedingly personal. And so we genuinely from the heart would not leave a home in the worst biological situation that we found. It goes against everything that we are.

R Blank 11:20
So you mentioned a few times now dirty electricity. And for those who are members of my shield your body community. You’ll have you’ll have heard about that sometimes from from Kathy, but I don’t think we’ve ever actually covered dirty electricity on the podcast itself. So can you is as as layman, speak as possible to find for our listeners what dirty electricity is?

BD Erickson II 11:41
Sure, of course, and I I’m going to rant just I love your website, like I’ve seen your stuff. I’ve actually been a fan, because I feel that we’re kindred spirits. I really do. And I’ve navigated your website, and I’ve seen your stuff pop up. And I’ve always told my team that whoever this person is, I love them because they resonate the same frequency I do. And I believe we were drawn from the quantum field. I really do. I’m corny that when people resonate at a similar frequency that the universe in its fantastic way lines you up. So I’m a fan of yours. And I’m truly honoured to be on the show. And I appreciate it. Oh, shucks

R Blank 12:13
Thank you very much. Flattery will get you everywhere from the heart.

BD Erickson II 12:19
So so dirty electricity. So elect one of electricity is names when we’re talking about the amperage is called current. Well, why is it called that? Well, because it moves like water. So let’s say that I’m going to get the assignment that I’m going to now clean up a river. So my assignments to filter this river. So I go into Montana, and I hike clear up to where the snow is melting and where the river really began to the circle of life. No, I’m not gonna filter it there doesn’t make any sense. It’s clean. It’s literally melted snow, you can drink it. But as they go farther down dirts getting in it that might have microbials in it, maybe animals are passing through it and bathing or doing whatever their animals do. Maybe an indigenous family is doing their laundry and maybe now we have a factory or some kind of pollutant going in the water. Now there’s something in the water to take out. So that’s where I’m going to start filtering it once there’s something in it. When the when the electricity leaves the dam, let’s say in these huge maglev machines that create this huge amount abundant amount of electricity. How far does it go to get to your house? Will 200 Miles let’s say just an example how many car washes and beauty schools does it go by before it gets to your house, and it gets dirty along the way. And in ways that you know about it? You just didn’t think about it. So when I was a little kid coming home from school, I would watch Carol Burnett, right Gilligan’s Island. Well, my mom would come in to vacuum and she would vacuum it would put lines in the TV. Now as a kid, I thought that was maybe the antenna but it wasn’t. I know now that clean power was going into my mom’s Electrolux vacuum degraded electricity was coming out. And that degraded electricity was now landing on the neutral the common so it was affecting the TV. My mom didn’t climb behind the TV to plug it in. She plugged into her shed lots of courtroom, but in some fantastic way. Vacuuming over there affected my TV over here. Well that’s interference. That’s one form of dirty electricity created by that electromagnetic field. We have DC devices, our phone or laptop or tablet. There have batteries so they’re DC and so I can’t just plug them in. I need the little $19 adapter that they change all the time because they want a new $19 from me. Now what’s that do that converts it from alternating current and to direct current which is kind of like clapping it strobes it which distorts it. Things coming on and off when a motor comes on it. It pulls from it’s called an inductive load. Why it induces it pulls. Well these things have an effect on electricity just like pollutants in water. You get less of the power that’s really usable and more of its distorted. Also, have you heard your sisters blow Would dryer on your radio. Well, of course, you’ve heard things like this. Crosstalk interference. A lot of times when we plug our EMI metre in, we get the radio. So when you have two signals passing closely together and they start to CrossTalk that’s called interference. So here’s a long way to go. What’s dirty electricity, it’s electricity. Now that isn’t in a really clean usable form. It has apparent power, it has distortion, harmonics, and electromagnetic fields that do a couple of things. Number one, it lowers its efficiency that manifests itself in heat. And number two, it creates subsequent radiation. And that radiation has been proven beyond contestation and be harming to the biological. So the cleaner that your power is by those standards, the faster your phone is going to charge and charge cool, not hot, like it likes to be the back of your fridges cool, not as warm your DVR is cool and warm, your TV pictures clear, your audio sound is crisp, and the biological are more at ease. Because to people that are EHS electro hypersensitive, they can describe a room that’s full of dirty electricity or interference has noisy, anxious and not a person that can feel it. And when you remove those things, either by filtering or turning them off, the words we often hear are calm and quiet. Now as a person that can’t feel it, I certainly understand what those two words mean. And so I can appreciate it. So in a, hopefully a kind of layman’s term, when the vacuum messes up the TV, or we can hear a blow dryer on your radio that is a form of dirty electricity.

R Blank 16:33
So that was a, that was one of the best definitions of I mean, layman’s definitions of dirty electricity I’ve ever heard. And I want to get back to your products. But before we do, I wanted to ask, you know, you because you’ve picked a career, obviously, and we touched on this a little bit earlier, but you’ve picked a career. And I know this from personal experience, where we’re talking about things that are comfortable, difficult for people to visualise or understand, then even when they do understand it, it can be easy for them to not care or to think that they don’t have to care. How have you approached these because you seem very skilled at talking about this stuff? How have you approached these challenges?

BD Erickson II 17:16
You’re exactly correct. We’re poo pooed many times in our in our genre in our field by a couple of things. Number one, this is a problem that I can’t see smell, touch or taste. And as humans, we really want physical evidence, not when we do. It’s also something that’s not so harming that you immediately notice it. What’s that mean? If you step in front of a bus that is immediately damaging to the biological, if you back into a propeller that is immediately damaging the biological, if you’re smoking cigarettes, if you’re eating unhealthy if you’re not getting fresh air, or even working in a coal mine, that’s not as immediately pressing. That’s something that’s cumulative and takes a long time. Well, you can see a cheeseburger and you can smell cigarettes. Again, this is something more like maybe radon gas that you can’t see touch or smell, but has been proven to be damaging. And so the first couple things are a they’re real, and they’re measurable. And be they’re damaging. Well, how damaging? Well, a couple things about that. One person I was watching TV one night, I don’t watch a lot of television, and it was a commercial for a lawsuit. Someone got emphysema from secondhand smoking. While we all know people that can smoke two packs a day and a diet 100 Why it affects different biology differently. We’ve all agreed it’s harmful, but it doesn’t affect everybody the same way. It’s also cumulative. Are you smoking one cigarette one time in college? I think you’re okay. Are you smoking three packs a day. So now we need someone like our building biologist here who comes in and says, Okay, let’s see what you’re living at. Let’s see, if you’re eating one cheeseburger a week. Or if you’re eating for a day, let’s see if we’re smoking one cigarette a day, or four packs a day. And so the next part of that I’m sorry for being long winded is then people maybe want to say you’re trading in fear, you’re dealing in fear, you’re trying to make money off scaring people, that one really hurts because if you’re a person of your individual body or someone that you love or care about your child is being hurt by this. It’s exceedingly real. And so when I when someone says it’s not real, it’s insulting at the highest level and who wants to go on YouTube and and have a discussion where you’re marginalised manner where you’re, you’re told that you’re some kind of ally or something. It’s very challenging. It’s a very hard thing. And one of the things I love about a lot of really brave humans is they’re willing to stand in the hail and speak their unknown their truth, even if it’s an uncomfortable message. And so that was something that we’ve had to do to is just stand in the hail and be willing to speak in on our truth. While some of the biggest corporations in the world make a lot of money from you being connected, and aren’t necessarily trying to hear a message about you being disconnected.

Cathy Cooke 19:52
So, Billy, you know, as a building biologist I’m using or coming into contact with a lot of different companies. that filter, a lot of different brands can pass it have filters in line, etc, etc. What is the difference between the static filters and other companies or other brands?

Speaker 5 20:12
So that’s a great question. So Samuel helms book was one that changed my life.

BD Erickson II 20:22
Dr. Graham, affected my life. I’ve tested the Stetzer filters and the Greenway filters, Gene greenwave. It’s a personal friend, I want everyone to know that while I’m going to say that my products are superior, I’m humble enough to know that I’m standing on these men’s shoulders got the, you know, the work that Graham sets are dead, with dairy cows, really showing that, hey, these have a real measurable effect on the biological world, the studies that they did on greenhouses and grows and strawberries, proving beyond any intelligent conversation, that the biological world is affected by that these products are fine, there are 20 or 30, micro Fairhead x 2x, two series capacitor in line from the face to the neutral, and they will remove a lot of harmonic distortion. The issue is, we started our company in 2008. And those products were old. And we started our company. And I’ve talked to both of those companies several times, and I love them. And I love the men and I respect them. And again, I’m standing on their shoulders, Kathy, and where I am today, because of leaders in our industry, they just haven’t updated the product line. When we’re talking about alternating current really talking about two waves that we need in phase. It’s a voltage wave and an average variable capacitor works on what the voltage would, excuse me the average wave. But what about the voltage wave? They have no filter? On the other way of completely? Number one they have they have one component set with one component, well, what happens if that one component goes bad, or you’re at none, or they’re made in China? Well, we don’t make things in China, we make things in the USA, and let’s say about a million of something in China, what are the chances that one or two of them are bad, would almost be impossible, highly improbable that some of them wouldn’t be also with the capacitor it’s building to a certain level and then it’s releasing, it’s like a battery. It’s kind of like when you have a leaky faucet, and that droplet has to get enough weight and big enough volume, that gravity pulls that and it overcomes the surface tension holding it till it drops. That’s our capacity. It builds this charge until it’s heavy enough to press the pasture that permeable barrier, the drop has to get big enough to go. So in my mind’s eye just being an average of intelligence human being, saying that if I’ve got one unit, then it’s going to, it’s going to do that it’s going to fill and it’s going to release, we use multiple small units, many times the same series next to series capacitor, but lots of little ones, why they’re not going to fill and discharge at the same time. So rather than boom, boom, boom, you’re going to get if you will, you’re going to you’re going to smooth that out even more. Next, if you’ve got eight of something, we always use Fibonacci series numbers. If if you’ve got multiple of something, and one does go bad, if one does fail, if one has a hard life, if one came over not manufactured the best, you’re still at seven, you’re still at 94 95% efficiency, that’s where we can give our stuff a 10 year warranty. Because number one, we use products that self heal truly so and we use so many, that even if one or one or two was manufactured poorly from the manufacturer that we got, if one or two does have a hard life, even at 10 years, you’re not at none. If you have one and you lose one, now you’re at none. If you’re an eight and you lose one, you’re at 96% efficiency. So a couple of things. Number one, we use a lot more components. We use components of different sizes and different manufacturing types, and they do different things. And we address both waves, the voltage and the amperage when the last part of that is when you use when you add too much capacitive reactance you’re gonna affect Power Factor negatively in that you’re leading voltage. Now, some people believe that improving power factor will lower your utility bill. The way most utility companies bill it should have no effect on it because they don’t bill for reactive power. But you want your power factor to be 95 to 100 blagging. You don’t want it leading inductance will make those two waves, the second wave will start to lag. As you add capacity, you’re going to be able to lead that wave. What’s that mean? It’s bad for you stuff. Your lightbulbs aren’t going to last as long and now they’re in landfill. Don’t get me started on that. Your phone is charging slow and hot. Your power bill is up there some things that it does. And so when we’re talking about filtering, Kathy, I tell people a lot. If I’m smoking is it better to put a really good cotton filter on the end of that thing or quit smoking. So buying filters is not the end all be all stopping smoking. Getting rid of the common culprits is the best way for your health when you can’t get rid of the culprits or you need some of the culprits now, that’s when we add filtering and less is more when you see you know packages of a lot of these other companies selling 20 and 30 filters, we don’t want you to have more than a couple, they actually create their own electromagnetic field, anything, you have a charge capacitor bank, you’re also going to create a field, don’t deny it, be open to all of it and use your eyes and your ears and your powers of perception to number one, turn off, get away from remove, address the culprits first and then use as little filtering as possible. And even though that goes against me selling more stuff, that’s the way you’re supposed to do it. That’s the way you address it. So we also rather than using one, lots of really big components in several places, we put a lot more components on a very small circuit board. Our products on the inside look a lot different than their products. So you can get more little guys into one or two units and not have to use as many. Sorry, that was long way.

Cathy Cooke 25:51
Oh, no, that’s great. And do so do you find you know, in my work with really sensitive people, the best of intentions and devices and children and all the things that we use can cause reactions for this population? Do you find that your ad? Do you get any feedback that people may be reacting negatively to your filters

BD Erickson II 26:16
course. So, you know, people I think some people think that you need to just tell them yes all the time, or tell them what they need to hear all the time. That’s not true. People can take it, people are tough. It sounds disingenuous. It’s all things to all people it works every time. Here’s something initially that a lot of people go through. So let’s say they’re you living in a pretty high EMF toxicity, overexposure lifestyle just by their life, right? When you filter and really reduce that they usually have a pretty couple hard verse days or nights, it’s not comfortable. A lot of times, it’s not just instant ease, they can feel the shift. But they almost have to have a detox Cathy, sometimes there’s a day or two, where they have to adjust now to this new environment. And I think that would happen with any product if you do a good job. So that that part of it is just a new environment. But also, some people also we’ll become sensitive to the device itself. And so placing the device is very important. So the 9999 95% of our products wire in at the panel. And what we do is we stage a lot of components in that panel. Why? Because we know it’s going to create an electromagnetic field. It’s a charged electronic, it’s a capacitor bank, it’s harmonic rectifiers, it’s toroidal chokes, it’s all those things. Let’s place them number one in one spot. Let’s not scattered through the house, because some people are going to be affected and sensitive to that. So don’t put them all over the house, put them at the panel, why the panel, because there’s already a huge field there. It’s already there. This is the 200 amp panel where the whole thing is being distributed from they’re not going to put their pillow on that anyways. So number one recognise that you are going to create a field that might negatively affect some people address it, and then put it where there already isn’t one. So with our units by the panel, we’re not really increasing anything and we tell people get away from that dumb thing. Anyway, that’s all part of the get. So you know, I

Cathy Cooke 28:13
and I agree with you too. I do not typically recommend that people have spot filter throughout the home unless there’s a extreme circumstance where something device that has to be filtered or something but I agree with you, I’m always recommending that these filters get put in at the panel. And one last follow up question. And again, I don’t want to overwhelm the audience here. But what I’m finding is when these when these sensitive populations are reacting, it’s usually because some of our filters will increase the dirty electricity down in the like two kiloHertz range and below. And I don’t know if you’ve done any testing on that or not, or what you’ve seen in that

BD Erickson II 28:53
area. Yes, you are correct. So I I agree with everything that you’re saying so far, we’re in harmony on that, that you know, use a line filter when you can wire it in at the panel, but then use the plug in Unit sometimes you have to sparingly in what we call hotspots. So what you’re saying is there’s there’s a unique spot yeah, sometimes you just got a hotspot, what’s a hotspot wiring errors, create hotspots, and I want to talk about that in a minute because filters exacerbate those or you know hey, that’s what the neighbours smart metres bloomin right at your house. Well, where do Where do waves land? Well, they land on antennas. Every car had an antenna for 30 years now it looks like a shark fin right? Well, what’s your wiring? Half a mile of high quality copper, it’s a super antenna. So you might have hotspots because that’s where your neighbor’s smart metre is pointing or that’s where the LT LTE tower is pointing or the 4g tower or god forbid the 5g Tower. And so that that point sometimes you have to hotspot those right? And so you have to dress with the plugin filter that that is at that spot. However, if there is like a bonded To reverse ground or neutral, unfortunately, most filters, including ours will make it worse. It’ll exacerbate it because it’s changing the natural functionality of the mechanism. And the mechanism wants to filter it on the hot leg on the on the face coming in, and then put that clean power back on the neutral, which is going to return path. If that’s bonded to ground there at that outlet, it can’t do its job. And so now, you can actually, you can actually exacerbate it. So one of the things that we like to include with our kit is just an outlet tested, there $19, just an outlet tested to make sure that hey, you know, your number might be let’s say, on a on a stretcher metre, you might be at seven or 800. And you’re really freaking out. And you find out that that outlets just wired wrong, you pull the cover off, and you put your pen light in there. And you can see that the ground and the neutral, whatever reversed. Get an electrician for $40 to change that. And now you don’t even need a filter because that was it. But then if you plug a filter, and I guess I’m getting long winded, we’re rabbit chilling here. If you plug a filter into that one, Kathy, you’re gonna make it worse. And you’re not going to know why. The average person you bought some plug in units off the you know, they don’t know why. They don’t. Yeah, that’s,

R Blank 31:11
I think this just this back and forth that you and Kathy are having right now. Sort of answers my next question. But I’m wondering what your thoughts are. Because it’s my experience. And you know, I, I don’t, I don’t make or sell products like yours, but people are often contacting shield your body asking you about dirty electricity. And my understanding is that it can be very challenging to remediate dirty electricity without the assistance of an expert, like your consulting team, or like Kathy, can regular consumers, or do you recommend that regular consumers purchase these things and try to instal them themselves? Or do you think you’re what’s the role of an expert in this in this equation here?

BD Erickson II 31:55
So you’re a good interviewer, because you just you just found or the muscle meets the mate right? where the rubber meets the road, you really did. Okay, so dirty electricity is real. It’s measurable, it’s bad for us, we have all graded that you can filter it, we’ve all agreed it that now. Next, we want to do it right. And nobody wants to spend more money than they need. Do. We’re all on a budget right now, every single one of us and you don’t want to spend your money on wisely. So how do I deduce where it goes? Is it working? And do I need an expert to do that? When you’re asking some of the entries to barrier Cathy’s asking when it makes our products better, while I know our products are better, what sets our company apart is our personal help. Because the average person needs a level of professional help. Ideally, yeah, you’ve got Kathy in there with their metre because she’s Jedi and she knows what she’s doing. Not everyone can have that. We have people on the phone all day every day. And it’s not some call centre. It’s my team. It’s my dad. It’s Val. It’s my son, my son suffered EHS his whole adult life. He’s worked here since he was at high school, people that will hear you personally, hear your story, understand it and a level that you’ve probably never truly been heard before. Because we have 100,000 of our wiring unit installed 100,000 We have 1000s of people that call here, they have to tell their story. It’s somewhat unique to them. Now we have to troubleshoot it. So the nice thing about our products another thing is that get our metre and a couple of plugin units. And you can initially find out what your levels are. Find your hotspots are kit comes with the things that we talked about. It comes with an outlet tester that comes with the guide that shows you how the outlet could be wired wrong and how to identify it and how to change it. And a lot of people can do that themselves very easily. We don’t suggest that but a lot of folks can do it, you can certainly see it. Next you can take your clipboard and look at your my lighting, my outlets, my my culprits, all these things and really deduce and nine out of 10 people, if they’ll buy the kit, if they’ll follow the instructions, we’ll get all their numbers under 40. But there’s nine out of 10 that leaves a lot to do. Let’s say hey, this one outlet actually got worse. Hey, this one thing didn’t go down at all why they call and when they call, they don’t get somebody in Bangladesh. God love them. They get somebody in Missoula, Montana that goes Okay, are you seeing this? Er, okay, great. Here’s what it is, oh, you’re seeing this, okay, great, and walks them through it. And with our products, not only a satisfaction guaranteed, we don’t give you a three day right of rescission, we give you 60 full days of getting the product in on packaging it playing the game, plugging this stuff and finding out and then sleeping in the new environment. And seeing if this is really for you. And with that is unlimited calls to our tech team to make sure that you get your numbers where you want them. Then between the products and our tech team, either get them where you want or it’s 100% Satisfaction guaranteed money back, you can’t lose. And in most cases, it’s pretty simple. And I’m winding it up here, but without some professional help. It would have been pretty darn hard. Realistically to figure it out all on your onesie.

R Blank 34:59
Yeah. Well, BT it’s it’s been a real pleasure chatting with you just getting to know you hearing the way you talk about these issues and then doing a bit of a deeper dive into into Sadek and what what makes you guys special? Where is it, you would like our listeners to connect with you.

BD Erickson II 35:17
Static shield is our website, and that’s s a t IC shield, regular spelling.com. And what we’d really love to do is we’d love to do a promotion for you guys. You know, we love your website. That’s why be we would love to give a promo code, anybody that that would buy from our store ecstatic shield, if they’d put in the promo code s YB, they’ll receive three things. Number one that we see free shipping on the whole order that receive 50% discount on the whole order. And they’ll get unlimited free tech support with our team one on one, to hear their story to help them use what they’ve got. And then we’ll make a small donation to your website. If somebody buys it.

R Blank 35:56
Oh, no, I appreciate that. But I was about to jump in and say I just want everyone to know we won’t earn anything from them. Okay, no,

BD Erickson II 36:03
he didn’t. He asked me for nothing. He asked me for nothing. But in my humble opinion, when when you’re out there swimming upstream. The more people that love you, the more people that cheer you on, the more people that throw their shoulder behind your will allow you and encourage you to raise your voice. And I love what you do. We’re kindred spirits. I love your website. So I will not read and write you but we love you and we appreciate you and we

R Blank 36:27
will put we’ll put that code in the show notes and on the website. BD again, great. You’re you’re you’re just I mean yeah, this has been a wonderful conversation direct and talking about dirty electricity is sometimes not the most fun topic to get into. So I appreciate how you’ve addressed this today. Thank you for so much for making the time to come on the healthier tech podcast.

BD Erickson II 36:51
You have a great show. Thank you for having me.

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R Blank is the founder of Healthier Tech and the host of “The Healthier Tech Podcast”, available iTunes, Spotify and all major podcasting platforms.

R has a long background in technology. Previously, R ran a software engineering firm in Los Angeles, producing enterprise-level solutions for blue chip clients including Medtronic, Apple, NBC, Toyota, Disney, Microsoft, the NFL, Ford, IKEA and Mattel.

In the past, he served on the faculty at the University of Southern California Viterbi School of Engineering where he taught software engineering, as well as the University of California, Santa Cruz.

He has spoken at technology conferences around the world, including in the US, Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands, and he is the co-author of “AdvancED Flex Development” from Apress.

He has an MBA from the UCLA Anderson School of Management and received his bachelor’s degree, with honors, from Columbia University. He has also studied at Cambridge University in the UK; the University of Salamanca in Spain; and the Institute of Foreign Languages in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia.

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